The ayaat about
Dhu al Qarnayn’s travels have been variously interpreted, yet continue to
perplex many Muslims. These ayaat have also been used by non-Muslims to point
out factual inaccuracies in The Quran.
Based upon what we know of the polar regions of the Earth, I think that
the first two travels were to the North and South Pole respectively. I’ve also
attempted to understand the third travel. My reasoning is as follows:
Who was Dhu
al Qarnayn?
وَيَسْأَلُونَكَ
عَن ذِي الْقَرْنَيْنِ ۖ قُلْ سَأَتْلُو عَلَيْكُم مِّنْهُ ذِكْرًا
[Al-Quran 18:83, Translator: Mohammad Sarwar]
(Muhammad), they will ask you about Dhu 'l-Qarnayn. Say, "I shall tell you
something about him".
‘Dhu al Qarnayn’ is the name or the title/attribute
of this person.
The Quran uses the word قَرْنٍ to generally mean generations. Variations of the root ق ر ن also lend meaning to words for companion, bound together, capable, accompanying. Of the twenty-three times it is used as the noun qarn (قَرْن), twenty are translated as generation(s), and thrice is it used for the name of the person ذَا الْقَرْنَيْنِ mentioned in Surah al-Kahf (Q18:83, 86, 94). More on this at: Dhul-Qarnayn [two horns, two generations, or both]
One of the meanings of ‘q-r-n’ in Lane’s Lexicon is ‘The part
of the head of a human being which in an animal is the place where the horn
grows’. ‘Qarnayn’ is the dual form of the noun. Various commentators have
interpreted ‘Dhu al Qarnayn’ as the ‘Lord of the Two Horns’ or ‘Possessor of
the Two Horns’.
Based on my interpretation of the subsequent verses, I think
Dhu al Qarnayn probably means Lord / Conqueror of the Two Poles, i.e.
the polar regions of the Earth, except that he already had this title on the first visit described, as he is being addressed as 'Ya Dha al Qarnain'. However, since he is being addressed by the author of the story, it is also plausible that he was already destined to be the Lord / Conqueror of the Two Poles.
Also see: People with Horn like growths on their Head.
So, may be it means all of the above.
To continue exploring other details in the subsequent ayaat:
إِنَّا مَكَّنَّا
لَهُ فِي الْأَرْضِ وَآتَيْنَاهُ مِن كُلِّ شَيْءٍ سَبَبًا
[Al-Qur’an 18:84, Translator: Mohammad Sarwar]
We had given him great power in the land and all kinds of resources.
According to this ayat, Dhu al Qarnayn must be a
legendary person who was established in power and resources, and could reach
anywhere on Earth. The last word: ‘sababun’ is variously translated as ‘resources’, ‘road’, ‘way’, ‘ways and means’, ‘means of access’. The Quran seems to use this word in the context of travel in the sky (air or space travel), such as the Pharaoh commissioning the building of صَرْحًا to travel the skies, as in Q40:36 in this screenshot:
The subsequent ayaat go on to describe three
specific travels described by some unique distinguishing features. Do we know of any such places?
First Travel
فَأَتْبَعَ سَبَبًا
حَتَّىٰ إِذَا
بَلَغَ مَغْرِبَ الشَّمْسِ وَجَدَهَا تَغْرُبُ فِي عَيْنٍ حَمِئَةٍ وَوَجَدَ عِندَهَا
قَوْمًا ۗ قُلْنَا يَا ذَا الْقَرْنَيْنِ إِمَّا أَن تُعَذِّبَ وَإِمَّا أَن تَتَّخِذَ
فِيهِمْ حُسْنًا
قَالَ أَمَّا مَن
ظَلَمَ فَسَوْفَ نُعَذِّبُهُ ثُمَّ يُرَدُّ إِلَىٰ رَبِّهِ فَيُعَذِّبُهُ عَذَابًا
نُّكْرًا
وَأَمَّا مَنْ
آمَنَ وَعَمِلَ صَالِحًا فَلَهُ جَزَاءً الْحُسْنَىٰ ۖ وَسَنَقُولُ لَهُ مِنْ أَمْرِنَا
يُسْرًا
[Al-Quran 18:85-88, Translator: Yusuf Ali]
85 One (such) way he followed,
86 Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring
of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! (thou
hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness."
87 He said: "Whoever doth wrong, him shall we punish; then shall he be
sent back to his Lord; and He will punish him with a punishment unheard-of
(before). [88] "But whoever believes, and works righteousness,- he shall
have a goodly reward, and easy will be his task as We order it by our
Command."
This place is described by the following facts:
- the Sun is setting,
- what it is setting in,
- people dwell near there, and
- Dhu al Qarnayn has authority over them.
Disappearing or Setting Sun?
The phrase used is ‘magrib-e-shams’
which can also be interpreted as ‘western Sun’ or ‘disappearing Sun’.
The polar regions of the Earth
experience a six-month long day followed by a six-month long night. At the
North Pole, ‘In summertime, the sun is always above the horizon at the North
Pole, circling the Pole once every day. It is highest in the sky at the Summer
Solstice, after which it moves closer to the horizon, until it sinks below the
horizon, at the Fall Equinox.’ [1]
Hence, if the North Pole is
visited during the few weeks before Fall Equinox, the Sun is in the process of
disappearing or setting.
What does the Sun appear to be disappearing in?
‘ainin
hamee-atin’ is variously translated as a well or warm spring, or spring with foul fetid mud [2], murky waters, dark mud, and so on [3].
There is no land at the North Pole. ‘The Arctic consists of ocean that is largely surrounded by land. As such, the climate of much of the Arctic is moderated by the ocean water, which can never have a temperature below −2 °C (28 °F).’ [4]
The lands near the North Pole, in the Arctic Circle, are known for hot springs and geysers, with muddy water spewing out of some [5] [6] [7] [8]. However, such places are also there near the South Pole, though perhaps lesser in number or less discovered [10] [11] [12]. Therefore, hot springs and geysers may not be a uniquely distinguishing feature of the North Pole from the South Pole. Hence, I’m inclined to think that ‘ainin hamee-atin’ refers to the warm waters of the Arctic Ocean.
Near it he found a people?
The key word is ‘near it’. There are many lands in
the Arctic Circle near the Arctic Ocean, where people dwell [13].
[14]
Wikipedia [15]
European Space Agency [16]
Hence, based upon the three key features:
disappearing Sun, warm waters and people near it, I think the only place on
Earth that exhibits all three features is the North Pole and the region
surrounding it, i.e. the Arctic.
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Second Travel
ثُمَّ أَتْبَعَ
سَبَبًا
حَتَّىٰ إِذَا
بَلَغَ مَطْلِعَ الشَّمْسِ وَجَدَهَا تَطْلُعُ عَلَىٰ قَوْمٍ لَّمْ نَجْعَل لَّهُم
مِّن دُونِهَا سِتْرًا
[Al-Qur’an 18:89-90, Translator: Yusuf Ali]
89 Then followed he (another) way,
90 Until, when he came to the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people
for whom We had provided no covering protection against the sun.
كَذَٰلِكَ وَقَدْ أَحَطْنَا بِمَا لَدَيْهِ خُبْرًا
[Al-Qur’an 18:91, Translator: Pickthall]
91 So (it was). And We knew all concerning him.
The second place
is described by three facts:
- that the Sun is rising,
- there are people dwelling there, so it is a land and
- that there is no protection from the Sun, followed by the claim that ‘We knew all...’.
Appearing or Rising Sun?
When there is
day in the Northern hemisphere, it is night in the Southern hemisphere. When the sun finally disappears below the
horizon at the North Pole at Autumn Equinox, and the six-month long night
starts there, the Sun rises above the horizon at the South Pole, commencing the
six-month long day at the South Pole.
People dwelling there? Land?
We know that there is land at the South Pole, i.e.
the continent of Antarctica. Though only research teams stay at Antarctica now [17],
however, we cannot rule out if people ever did or did not live in the continent
of Antarctica. There do exist some old maps which indicate a warm climate for Antarctica.
What do we know about natural protection from the
Sun?
We know that the
ozone layer in the atmosphere is a natural protection from the Sun’s harmful
rays. We also know that every Antarctic spring, there is a large hole formed in
the ozone layer over most of Antarctica.
“The Antarctic Ozone Hole was discovered ... Satellite measurements then confirmed that the springtime ozone loss was a continent-wide feature... The ozone hole is formed each year in the Southern Hemisphere spring (September-November) when there is a sharp decline (currently up to 60%) in the total ozone over most of Antarctica.” [18]
“The severe depletion of the Antarctic ozone layer known as the “ozone hole” occurs because of the special atmospheric and chemical conditions that exist there and nowhere else on the globe” [19]
[20]
The ozone
depletion over the North Pole is a recent phenomenon, caused due to ‘human’
reasons. Hence, based upon the three key natural features: rising Sun, land and
no protection from the Sun, I think the only place on Earth that exhibits all
three features is the South Pole and the region surrounding it, i.e. the
Antarctic Circle.
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Third Travel
ثُمَّ أَتْبَعَ
سَبَبًا
حَتَّىٰ إِذَا
بَلَغَ بَيْنَ السَّدَّيْنِ وَجَدَ مِن دُونِهِمَا قَوْمًا لَّا يَكَادُونَ يَفْقَهُونَ
قَوْلًا
قَالُوا يَا ذَا
الْقَرْنَيْنِ إِنَّ يَأْجُوجَ وَمَأْجُوجَ مُفْسِدُونَ فِي الْأَرْضِ فَهَلْ نَجْعَلُ
لَكَ خَرْجًا عَلَىٰ أَن تَجْعَلَ بَيْنَنَا وَبَيْنَهُمْ سَدًّا
قَالَ مَا مَكَّنِّي
فِيهِ رَبِّي خَيْرٌ فَأَعِينُونِي بِقُوَّةٍ أَجْعَلْ بَيْنَكُمْ وَبَيْنَهُمْ رَدْمًا
آتُونِي زُبَرَ
الْحَدِيدِ ۖ حَتَّىٰ إِذَا سَاوَىٰ بَيْنَ الصَّدَفَيْنِ قَالَ انفُخُوا ۖ حَتَّىٰ
إِذَا جَعَلَهُ نَارًا قَالَ آتُونِي أُفْرِغْ عَلَيْهِ قِطْرًا
فَمَا اسْطَاعُوا
أَن يَظْهَرُوهُ وَمَا اسْتَطَاعُوا لَهُ نَقْبًا
قَالَ هَـٰذَا
رَحْمَةٌ مِّن رَّبِّي ۖ فَإِذَا جَاءَ وَعْدُ رَبِّي جَعَلَهُ دَكَّاءَ ۖ وَكَانَ
وَعْدُ رَبِّي حَقًّا
وَتَرَكْنَا بَعْضَهُمْ
يَوْمَئِذٍ يَمُوجُ فِي بَعْضٍ ۖ وَنُفِخَ فِي الصُّورِ فَجَمَعْنَاهُمْ جَمْعًا
[Al-Qur’an
18:92-99, Translator: Yusuf Ali]
92 Then followed he
(another) way,
93 Until, when he reached (a tract) between two mountains, he
found, beneath them, a people who scarcely understood a word.
94 They said:
"O Zul-qarnain! the Gog and Magog (People) do great mischief on earth:
shall we then render thee tribute in order that thou mightest erect a barrier
between us and them?
95 He said: "(The power) in which my Lord has
established me is better (than tribute): Help me therefore with strength (and
labour): I will erect a strong barrier between you and them:
96 "Bring me blocks of iron." At
length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain-sides,
He said, "Blow (with your bellows)" Then, when he had made it (red)
as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead." [compare translations of Q18:96]
97 Thus were they made powerless to scale it or to dig through it.
98 He
said: "This is a mercy from my Lord: But when the promise of my Lord comes
to pass, He will make it into dust; and the promise of my Lord is true."
99 On that day We shall leave them to surge like waves on one another: the
trumpet will be blown, and We shall collect them all together.
The third place
Dhu al Qarnayn arrives at is distinguished by the facts that:
- it is between two mountains or barriers,
- the people did not have understanding or knowledge,
- they were suffering due to Gog and Magog, who did great mischief on Earth,
- iron was used and another element was poured over it, the opening was sealed, thereby making them powerless to scale or dig through it.
Space between two barriers?
The word used is ‘alssaddayni’ [root: s-d-d] meaning
two barriers. Since the word j-b-l has been used elsewhere in the Qur’an when
speaking of mountains, and s-d-d has been used for barrier, hence it is
reasonable to assume that here also two barriers are being referred to, and not
two mountains.
Who scarcely understood a word?
‘yafqahoona’ root f-q-h: to possess fiqh means to
possess understanding, and knowledge, and intelligence, and especially
knowledge of the law [21]. ‘la yakadoona yafqahoona qawlan’ or ‘who scarcely understood a word’ implies, I
suppose, that these people were primitive in the sense that they were not
organized in terms of religion or society, or were lawless/unable to follow the
law/suffering lawlessness (due to terrorism?). The former follows from the fact that these people
are in isolation between two barriers, while the latter follows from the fact
that, in the subsequent ayaat, they converse with Dhu al Qarnayn, tell him
about the mischief being created by Gog and Magog, request a barrier from them,
and also offer tribute for the building of such a barrier. Furthermore, they
were also able to bring (mine?) iron, and lead or copper alloy, as well as
provide the labour.
Barriers against whom?
Barriers are meant to prevent something or someone
from crossing over, i.e. entering or leaving, as the case may be. Dhu al
Qarnayn was able to reach this place, thus these barriers did not keep him out.
Perhaps, and this is pure speculation, these barriers were not meant to keep
out the people on Earth, but rather were meant to seal a ‘portal’ to keep out
‘aliens’ from the sky or below Earth from reaching the Earth’s surface?
Filled between the ‘l-ṣadafayni’?
‘l-ṣadafayni’ is the dual form of the noun with root
s-d-f, meaning mother of pearl as well as two tall structures meeting together
or facing each other. [22] I assume then that this was a portal or a breached barrier that needed to be
sealed.
Iron covered with molten Copper alloy or Lead? Powerless
to scale or dig through it?
Sheets or blocks of Iron were placed to construct/repair
the barrier. Then, it was coated with another material, probably to reinforce
it and prevent rusting, thus giving it a smooth finish and making it
impenetrable.
The word used for this coating material is ‘qitra’,
which has been variously translated as Copper [23],
Brass [24] and Lead [25]. The same word has been used for the spring of
molten liquid that was made available to Solomon [26]. (Interestingly, Iron was made pliable for his father, David [27])
Gog and Magog, who did Great Mischief on
Earth?
There is mention
of and references to these in ancient scriptures and related works [28]. Some have identified them with a particular place/race, while others do not
identify them with a particular place or race on Earth. Notable among them is
the Hindu mythology, according to which they are hidden from human realm and
are probably subterranean [29] [30].
Legends and adventure stories [31] also abound about the inner Earth, of creatures/people dwelling within the Earth. Though modern science refutes ideas about a hollow earth, if there is any figment of truth to any of these accounts, then it is a wonder why we humans have not been able to dig through or find a way to their subterranean civilization, or why they haven’t been able to reach up to the Earth’s surface, unless there exists a natural barrier with only one opening, which was sealed by Dhu al Qarnayn.
Until the Promise comes to Pass?
In The Quran, this expected event is mentioned twice:
in Surah 18 (as quoted above), and in Surah 21, ayat 96, ‘Until when [the
dam of] Gog and Magog has been opened and they, from every elevation, descend,’ [32]. More on this at: Gog Magog & The City that will Return.
References & Links
note [Update 2022]: this blogpost was initially written in 2014, the related references and links' list was compiled ; since then some of the links provided below may no longer be active now
[2] Lane Lexicon Page 638 Col 3 last entry before h-m-d
[5] The Polar Regions of the Western Continent Explored by W. J. Snelling
Attribution: By CIA - CIA World Factbook (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/xq.html), Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=21877
- previous image: https://www.ccin.ca/home/sites/default/files/faq/arctic-circle.gif
[21] Lane’s Lexicon Page
2429
[22] Lane’s Lexicon Page 1666
[24] Lane’s Lexicon Page 2543 & http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=18&verse=96
[33] Attribution: By TUBS - Own workThis image was created with Adobe Illustrator.This file was uploaded with Commonist. This vector image includes elements that have been taken or adapted from this: Antarctica (orthographic projection).svg (by TownDown)., CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=14959356
Last updated on November 25, 2022
the Vikings or Norsemen did not have horned helmets, that is a popular misconception probably from hollywood movies
ReplyDeleteYes, I came across that while researching for this blogpost. However, note that the Qur'an speaks about Dhu al Qarnayn in singular: it is not referring to a particular tribe who used to wear peculiar head-gear. Also, there is no record of the Vikings going to the South Pole. Further, if my interpretation of the verses on Dhu al Qarnayn's travels are correct, the dating of this person and his voyages must be of a much before the Vikings, in an age that the human civilisation was at a very advanced stage, probably around the time of the legendary Prophet-King Solomon. There are two reasons why I am inclined to think that it might be so: [1] Vikings are dated around and after revelation of the Quran [2] The mention of Iron in relation to Solomon's father, Prophet-King David; Also, I read a commentary on Chapter 18 of the Quran where the author writes that during Solomon's reign, there were four great kingdoms: 2 with righteous leaders and 2 forces of evil. Yet, I am insufficiently informed to make any assertions for or against this position.
DeleteIn my opinion Dhul Qarnain was prophet Sulaiman, AS, as he had control over Human & Jinn( 2 horns ) and was given means of travel to cover large distances( sura Saba ayat 12). this big project he did with help of Jinn.He was also given spring of Molten Copper in sura Saba ayat 12, which was used in building of this wall. Lastly he was able to understand language of those people no one can understand, as he was given miracle to communicate / understand any animal.
DeleteIn my humble opinion, Dhul Qurnayn predate Prophet Sulaiman, as his reach and power seems unlimited. And the Prophet Sulaiman was granted a kingdom no one can surpass in his time and AFTER him.
DeleteMaybe, or maybe not. If we focus on the title: Dhu al Qarnayn, then the Qarn is in the dual form, that is two. Whereas, in Q38:38, Prophet Sulaiman was granted muqarranīna (plural: three or more).
Deletehttps://corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp?q=qrn
Selam aleykum brother. Really nice Threat. Could it be that Dhull Qarnayn build an electromagnet. Thats why he needed Iron, and he put Chopper around. That is the Barrier that protect us from the aliens. The Electromagnetic field. The Gog and magog could be the Draconians and Reptillian Allianzen they talk about. Or it could be connect to the Walter. Ya and Ma, like calling someting from Water. What u think about this points, stay belssed. Ve selam aleykum ve rahmetullah
DeleteIf Dhu al Qarnayn and Prophet Solomon are the same person, why are the two mentioned separately? Al-Quran 18:83 begins with the question about Dhu al Qarnayn. If it was Prophet Solomon, the simple answer or the simple beginning of the answer could have been that he was Prophet Solomon.
ReplyDeleteif you know the background of Sura Al Khaf, there was a group of Jewish Rabbai, came to see Prophet Mohammad , they asked him 4 questions, to test prophet Mohammad that he is really getting revelations from Allah or if he is making it himself.Among those 4 questions include who was Dhul Qarnain? which was his Title, since Quran was answering question so Allah deliberately used Dhul Qarnain so they can understand. another example of this is in same sura about Khidr A.S. his name is deliberately hidden as khidr in Arabic means Green.
ReplyDeleteCan you please show me the relevant verses in the Torah or some other jewish writing from which it can be cross-checked?
ReplyDeleteI must say you have done an excellent research on this subject, best so far.
ReplyDeleteI don't have access to original Torah, however we have enough proof from Quran. Mohammad Akbar has done research from Quran in his book "Allah"
1. Prophet Suleiman , was given means of travelling as mentioned in sura Saad ayat 36-40 , so, we subjected to him Wind, it blew gently to his order to go wherever he willed.. and Shayateen / Jinn every kind of Builder and Diver and also others bound in Fetters. Allah said this is our gift, so spend or withhold, no account will be asked.and he enjoyed near access to us a good final return.
2. he was given spring of Copper Sura Saba ayat 12
3. I believe yajooj Majooj are in Hollow earth in Poles, that may be reason all the research in Antartica. Also I believe humans were living in Antartica at that time.
All credit goes to Allah for helping me comprehend the locations of these places. If there are any mistakes or shortcomings, that's entirely due to my lack of knowledge and understanding. May Allah accept our efforts, increase us in knowledge that is beneficial, and forgive our mistakes and omissions. Amen.
ReplyDeletehi. salam alaykum. i came to this blog because the curiousity of the "flat earth" theory with the all elite global conspiracy. i wonder also if zulqarnain had reached the south pole. but here i found the conclusion into hollow earth theory. what do you think?
ReplyDeleteWalaikumsalam.
DeleteAs explained in this blogpost: 'Hence, based upon the three key natural features: rising Sun, land and no protection from the Sun, I think the only place on Earth that exhibits all three features is the South Pole and the region surrounding it, i.e. the Antarctic Circle.' So, yes Dhul Qarnayn certainly seems to have visited the South Pole as the second of the three places mentioned.
Is your question about Hollow Earth is based upon Gog Magog? Suggest you check up the references 36-40 mentioned at the references list.
So far scientists have not even been able to directly study the interior of the Earth, and most of what we 'know' is based on their inference from available data. Hence its difficult to state anything about the interior of the Earth with any certainty.
Regarding the interior of the Earth, this blogpost might also be of interest: http://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/03/fuel-of-hell-humans-and-stones.html
As salaam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatu. Hi, Samiya. I think u should look into the 'Flat Earth Theory.' I believe the 'setting place of the sun' is Antartica, and the 'rising place of the sun' to be the Arctic... the opposite of ur conclusion. I would like 2 discuss with u in more detail. If u would like 2, contact me at knj1461 @yahoo.com
ReplyDeleteWalaiumsalam.
DeleteI would rather you post your views here, so that the readers of my post can benefit from an alternate view as well.
Jazak'Allah khair
Salaam Alaykum Samiya, you're blog post has been an answer to my prayers. I have been on this lead as trying to understand Gog and Magog, who Dhulqarnain was, etc. Christians are talking about fallen angels trapped in Antartica: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuNNBCRSis4
DeleteThank you for your service to humanity and please keep up your work!
Walaikumsalam.
DeleteAs regards the Earth being flat or spherical, Q55:33 speaks of the diameters of the Heavens and Earth. Diameter is a property of round or spherical objects. Please see the sections titled Seven Heavens in Layers & the next section titled Seven Earths in the blogpost Creation [http://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2014/10/creation.html]
Walaikumsalam YaseenTheLifer. As regards Fallen Angels, please read the blogpost World History & Future Implications [http://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/06/mission-of-messengers.html]
DeleteThank you for sharing the youtube link.
yakhi Dhul Quarnain I have made ta'weel to myself and Allah is Sulaiman as for all of the points you have made espescially 'Quitr'. I also ponder the FACT that the earth is indeed flat. A'tabari throng The Mufassiroon of this uma Ibn Abbas relates on all these matters of creation. it is all there you just have not to afraid to join the dots. The Vikings.. the root of the word viking is 'vis' which means to come out from or an inlet or gorge. Wa salaam
Deleteviking is 'vik'
DeleteWalaikumsalam.
ReplyDeleteAccording to Al-Qur'an 18:98 [http://islamawakened.com/quran/18/98/] the metal wall will be destroyed and the Gog Magog will be able to escape.
What this and other videos on YouTube show is an (open?) lid.
Though this is most certainly interesting, however, I think, this couldn't be the 'sealed wall' which they were 'neither able to surmount/scale not pierce/dig through' as mentioned in Q18:97.
Otherwise, they would already be descending from 'every elevation' as per Q21:96
Jazak'Allah khair for sharing! May Allah increase us in knowledge and taqwa.
there is a 14 mile long structure visible in antartica which could be this wall, you can search u tube
ReplyDeletedhul qarnayn was alexander the great
ReplyDeleteAlexander was NOT Zulqarnain, as he was Alcoholic & Gay, while Allah gives him so much power to Punish people if he wishes ! We must think logically when understanding Quran, not just cut and paste what some scholar wrote
DeleteAssalamualaikum, I have reached the same conclusion through my reasoning, and was searching the internet to see whether someone did the same, until I found your blog.
ReplyDeleteI would like to add two points:
1) a Hadith says yajuj majuj are also children of Adam (AS) and they outnumber us by 999 to 1. If 7 billion humans exist today, that gives us a number of roughly 7000 billion of them! That's an incredible number. There has to be a continent sized subterranean cave system with its own sustainable ecosystem to sustain such a high population. I remember watching a Ted talk of an explorer who explores undiscovered cave systems. From what I remember, he said 99% of subterranean cave systems remain unexplored, they have their own ecosystems, with endemic species of flora and fauna not yet discovered.
2) Historians have not yet solved the Neanderthal puzzle, they were a human race that abruptly disappeared at a point in time in history, although they were much stronger and more intelligent. The widely accepted theory is that we killed them off, although how our ancestors wiped out a stronger and more intelligent human breed is confounding. Could it be that the Neanderthals never really disappeared,rather went underground, and they are the yajuj majuj? They are not a separate species, rather children of Adam (as), they breed with our ancestors as proven by the fact that modern humans have 2-3% Neanderthal genes.
(Allah knows best)
Look forward to your thoughts on these.
Walaikumsalam.
DeleteAll thanks to Allah for gracing us with the understanding of these ayaat. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. The following points come to mind:
1) The Quran states that Allah created us from a single Nafs.
2) Adam was not necessarily the first Human.
3) According to a scholar, the Bible and Hadith mention the creation of several Adams. However, according to the Quran, Adam is a proper noun (name) of a particular historical figure. Therefore, taking Quran as the final authority, I'm inclined to think that perhaps some details have been lost/miscommunicated in the translations of the Bible and the transmissions of the Hadith.
4) I believe that bani Adam have crossbred in the past, and it was this particular corruption that the past civilisations were destroyed for. Please read the blogposts series Mission of the Messengers, and particularly the first post of the series titled World History & Future Implications, and the twelfth: Wronging the Nafs
You can find the links to the blogposts relevant to the points I've mentioned above at http://signsandscience.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html
And indeed Allah knows best. May Allah increase us in knowledge and be well-pleased with us. Aameen.
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ReplyDeleteWho created this Blog and how do you know Dhu al Qarnayn visited the South and the North Pole?
ReplyDeleteThis is wonderful Information but we have more details
Today we picture taken from satellite in space...just google and type aurora from space... You will see the not so oval shaped but slightly horned shape Northern and southern lights as seen from space...
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DeleteNative american remember him in their myth and legend particulary in central and South America...they discribe him to be fair in complextion... bearded.... Clothed from top to bottom... What struck me most when they said.. When he came our forefathers are naked...but they have different name for him.... He forbid them to perform human sacrifice... and he prostrate in prayer... Allah knows best
ReplyDeleteassalamu alaykum brother/sister can you inbox me at kyruveli
Deleteos@gmail.com. i have information about dhul qarnayn and yajuj wa majuj . can you elaborate on what the central american myths were. jazakallah
Dear brothers we should open up our mind so we can see the unseen.... I saw a metallic plaque in the internet which archeologist said its a hoax... taken from a cave in Equador South America early this century...I gave it a clearer look because the person who posted it refers to an image at the bottom of the plaque as gog and magog...he tried to decipher the carving... He got it almost right.. But he couldn't understand the meaning... As a muslim when i saw it i was shocked... Forgive me Allah if i am wrong... On the plaque it shows 2 mountain beneath one of it is a subterranean hole... It show a dome shape furnace like a burner... Next to it is symbol of fire .. Next symbol that means conquerer.. dhul qarnayn??? ..symbol of a crescent moon occuring in equator which... further studies it meant the setting and risimg of the sun...symbol of knowledge and water... Khidr???... Symbol of 7 planet which is unique only to Sumerian and mesopotamian culture....I dare not say more... May Allah gave us guidance
ReplyDeleteDo you think the metal plaque you saw is the وَالرَّقِيمِ mentioned in Q18:9? Kindly share the link
Deleteasc sister can you please inbox me at kyruvelios@gmail.com .. it would be an honor to discuss various concepts such as evolution, modern science . etc . jazakallah khayran
DeleteI will be happy to discuss these topics in the comments section of the relevant posts in this blog. May Allah increase us in knowledge and guidance. Aameen.
DeleteAssalamu'alaykum. Greeting from Malaysia. I believe
ReplyDeletedhulqarnain literally means, both:
1) the one with 2 generations (In this case it is Sulaiman AS who inherited the kingdom & knowledge from Daud AS)
2) The one who rules 2 World
(maghribi-shams could be the extent of North Africa and masyrik is the American continent, the deserts where the indigenous live, without any trees that give shade over sun ray or without any garment to cover their body.)
The word zubaral-hadid comes from 2 mu'jizat given to Daud as which Zabur (the book) & Hadid (his ability on ironworks), which Sulaiman as inherited.
Whereas Qitra is the molten copper which was given to Sulaiman AS, and he was given the means to travel with wind power from western hemisphere to eastern hemisphere and to the north.
Sulaiman used zubaral hadid the metal sheets to form the structure of the radma (dam) & and coated/alloyed them with qitra the molten copper. Copper now is widely used as coating agent for carbon steel or creating copper-steel alloy.
Walaikum-as-Salam.
DeleteThank you for sharing your beliefs.
You may find this post of interest then: signsandscience.blogspot.com/2017/10/iron-age.html
asSalaamu alaikum,
ReplyDeletei m a sister/researcher from India. Author, Samiya Illias may i know who are u n what do u do in brief?
i have done a deep research on this subject n have found the location of yajuj majuj... now i m in search of honest researchers to share my this research... the location i hv found cannot b share publicly on forums n blogs n social media...it wont b gud for muslim ummah as this knowledge if disclose n spread publicly then it will only help bad people to make more mischief on earth... plz help me... reply asap
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ReplyDeleteSamiya, m sorry but all d supposed locations of yajuj majuj available on the internet are wrong including urs...
my research conculdes that this tribe of yajuj majuj were highly skilled masons/builders n that is why Allaah ta'ala to defeat them through Zulqarnain has set n unbeatable example against them in the field of Masonry/Construction/Building
and i think n hv sum sign evidences too that this tribe has some eerie connection to Freemasonry...
Wa alaikum assalam.
DeleteAccording to the ayaat of Al-Quran, the release of Yajuj Majuj can neither be hastened nor delayed. They will remain trapped as long as Allah has decreed, and will only be released when the promise comes to pass. So, no worries regarding their location.
If you have discovered in your research something that may concern public safety, please share your research with some Muslim head of state or religious leader, who is in a position of power and authority to take some action to contain the danger.
May Allah bless, guide and protect you.
thanx for reply
Deletei did contact sum aalim/muballigh in Mumbai regarding my research...
but they showed least interest n advise me to research follow n spread only personality of our Prophet(pbuh)...
Muslim Religious Heads/Leaders who has a open mind that is interested in Researches like these arent easy to find.
May Allaah help me.
Ammarbabar
ReplyDeleteFrom Karachi...... Inpersonaly read all the conversation about Antarctica and appreciate admins research over it..I'm much anxious to learn about the North Pole as I have recently known that scientist s have discovered some pyramids covered with snow somewhere in antaAntarc and some of the long hesdeh skuls this directly opens the way to know that Antarctica had been a viscinity of some very highly modernized civilization might it be Atlantis story told by Plato 2300 years ago which later destroyed due to great flood and sunken under the depth of gigantic ocean...wasalam
Assalamualaikum Bros...I've commented here before...I'm the one who commented on the horn shape aurora,native american remembers him and the metal plaque from Equator....once an Iraqi archeologist says that if you put aside all the myth in the Epic of Gilgamesh you will find Dhul Qarnayn...I've read the Epic...put aside 90pc....what does the 10 pc says....he travel to the end of the world until he reach the twin peaks of mount Mashu...to the settings and rising of the sun....builder of the wall of uruk ( are they sure it was in uruk or somewhere)the outer wall shines in the sky like cooper...to protect his people from external threats...he has somebody by the name Enkidu who travelled with him... remembers to put aside much about Enkidu...I wish I could spell his name correctly...Khidr..Allah knows best...but this name will later be translated...maybe we could only guest...by a Brazilian archeologist who translated what he say was ancient Phoenician or older writing on the upper side cliff of Pedra de Have a in Rio de Janeiro....there word Tzur.. Hzir...rabbal....his translation is blur because the inspiration was not Clearwater thousands of years...no Muslim comments in the comment section but a Serbian did commented...with their language close to Arabic maybe due Tu Ottomans rule this is what he commented...TZUR= supreme ruler over people
ReplyDeleteRAB= slave, servant. It is common in Serbian language to refer to all people (including the emperor) as Servants of God.....so brothers if his name is Gilgamesh but his title is Dhul Qarnayn....he is truly remembers only in legends...legends that turn into myth...if there is once a man like him...then you maybe could see the similiarity in pronunciation of this names....Dhul Qarnayn....Tzur in Pedra de Gavea cliff writings...Thor in Scandinavia legend..(Ku)(kul)(kan)...viroco(cha)...(Quet)(zal(coatl)in Mesoamerican legends...Furthermore there is a world map on a round stone found in Equator showing all the continents...a small mark was shown that the journey begins somewhere in northern Arabian peninsular maybe present day Iraq...across the Mediterranean..past the straits of Gibraltar.. going northwards to Scandinavia and Iceland/ Greenland...across the Atlantic...sail downward to south America...Brazil...sail the Amazon reach the Andes Mountains...then sail across the Pacific and the line drawn show returning to Iraq... Archeologist says it's a hoax...nobody could draw a world map thousands of years ago...go Google it...I say it begins in Mesopotamia....ok I'll get to you later.Insyaallah.
The Mighty Ancients
Deletehttps://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-mighty-ancients.html
Presentation slides:
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2017/09/the-mighty-ancients-presentation.html
There are some spelling that needs correction....sorry Bros...my eyesight is not so good...for instance..Pedra de Gavea...I misspelled it..so is inspiration..supposed to be inscription...sorry.
ReplyDeleteSalam, nice discussion.
ReplyDeleteThere is another point of view in below link to a post:
https://topicsfromquran.com/2018/09/22/zal-qarnain-dual-qarnain/
Hello, Initially I wanted to make a post on this and just did a cursory search without expecting anything in return. Alas, I didnt know there was someone (probably everyone right now have the ability to figure it out) that the place of residence of gog and maggog somehow points to Antartica. What do you think about these events taking place on the supercontinent pangea before it was split? SInce earth has not been the same all this time and also we donot know for exact the time period on earth's cycle that adam a.s was put here. The only place the man's eyes donot reach are the two poles, and underwater/underground. Excellent work pointing out the roads != means of access. My guess is that he had naval power. A bit skeptical about them coming from space though.
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